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I often wonder about the nature of

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reality about our relationship to the

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creative force that forged the particles

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of our stars and intertwine them with

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the molecules of our bodies who are we

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and where are we actually sitting within

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the architecture of our universe are we

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alone or is the answer simply stranger

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than we can think my name is jeremy

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Korbel I seek to weaponize your

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curiosity and if you're ready to suspend

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your own prejudice welcome to the world

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oh and welcome once again to on the

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record if you joined us last week you

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heard some startling revelations about

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UFOs and the government cover-up about

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UFOs from noted UFO researcher John Lear

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who has been here many times before all

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right you you recently decided to take

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it upon yourself to try to get to the

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bottom of this major cover-up what you

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say as a cover-up you went up to groom

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Lake would you say is like a center of

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this UFO activity

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you made a tape while you were there

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let's take a brief look at that tape if

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we could and then when we come back you

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can explain it we're standing just about

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eight miles to east of Groom Lake Nevada

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the super government secret test site

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and just a few minutes ago we saw one of

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the government extraterrestrial UFOs fly

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over there we all watched it for about

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there seven or eight minutes right here

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I have my celestron scope rods eight

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inches and I had I had it focused in for

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about 15 seconds and saw myself but in

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fact it was a disc now we're going to

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stay here for another couple hours here

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to see if we can show you folks an

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actual extraterrestrial flying saucer

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being flown by the government so if you

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just stand by and we'll be looking over

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that mountain which is where they are

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they also come over here which is over

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at Bald Mountain there's some lights

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over there which you can't see but they

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are a number of trucks we don't know

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whether they're looking down here and

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what they're doing up there but we

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managed to get in here we're standing on

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public land it's a completely legal

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where we are this physicist who showed

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you where the saucer is supposedly

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they're flying up a group link what

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happened is I was approached by

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government theoretical physicists

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employed by the government who works on

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the saucers up at groom like he has seen

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the aliens he is tired of the cover-up

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he knows what a ripoff it is of how much

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how many billions of dollars were

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wasting

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on trying to develop develop technology

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that's already been developed and he

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told me when and where to stand and we

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drove up there we were actually there on

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three occasions I mean the fact that

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that the military doesn't want you

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around the top secret base doesn't mean

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there's flying saucers there I know it

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doesn't except we had just seen what the

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theoretical physicist that was with us

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that I told us where to stand I and you

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know what time to look the next day he

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was told instead of driving to work to

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drive to a certain place

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he was debriefed with a gun in his ear

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and asked why you know he told this and

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told us that and well he's worked in

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what capacity with him up there

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theoretical physicist but I mean what

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did he do around the saucer so I'm just

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wasting my breath all I can tell you is

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that when you find out the truth a month

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from now a year from now two years from

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now you'll look back and you'll say my

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god the son of a gun was right oh and

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welcome to a special edition of on the

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record into more than five years since

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we've been hosting these programs no

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guest has inspired such a widespread and

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enduring audience response as has John

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Lear son of the famed aviation pioneer

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at a world-class pilot in his own right

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as many of you may know though Lear the

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son is best known for his research into

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UFOs a phenomenon described by some as

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worldwide hoax described by others as

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hey you know what I think what is

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created fake what just like we said

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yesterday learnt something new every day

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especially how to make fake blood that's

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not well this is well I best experiment

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since I was experimenting with you know

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cleaning stuff cleaning oil and I mix it

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all together and I put it in the tube

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now I'm kind of making my own invention

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follow-on and my ancestors grandpa was a

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very good pilot he was on an adventure

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but my great-grandfather was a very good

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inventor the car rating on stereo he

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built so that was very interesting and

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he and he also built the autopilot for

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the Air Force when he died he was

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working on a water-powered School Bus

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the aliens they don't harm me they want

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to take you up they want to make sure

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everything is going on with your body

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okay so what they do is they'll come

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down and they'll freeze time to pick you

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up they take you up when you're 1 3 9 11

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and 13 after that they don't take care

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of you but what they do is they put you

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in their ship and they take you up there

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and they you know they make sure

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everything's running right in your body

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and if everything's not running right

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there you know they're gonna fix it like

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I had a little cramp in my leg the other

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day and I was it was 9:00 and I woke up

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the next morning it was gone just Grant

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was gone

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my belief is I do believe that they had

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they they took me up there and they

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worked on my leg

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they you know they helped me out I mean

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I don't believe in all that kill the

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aliens you know they're not they don't

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exist I don't believe in that stuff so I

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believe they took me up digs

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they you know they fix him up my body

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and that was it I believe that I believe

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everything you think you know is an

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immaculate deception you seem to have an

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extraordinary belief when you look up at

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the moon what do you see

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three things happened within the space

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of a month that set my whole thinking in

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a different direction the most

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interesting of which was a photo during

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the night or when you can see it during

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the day if you look right dead center of

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the moon that is the sinus man a sinus

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met a means middle cavity and right in

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the middle of sinus meadow is a coward

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it stands six miles high

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it's made of a glass-like material

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because you can see through it that that

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thing is really there it's really six

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miles I and it is something so along

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with that I had been doing some studying

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in remote viewing a guy like me who

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doesn't know when the door bells going

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to ring or the phone's going to ring

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with absolutely no sense of something

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going to happen if he could make this

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remote viewing work if it was really if

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I could really do it

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so I went to the week class and to make

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a long story short after two days it was

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apparent that yes I could it was really

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amazing that was the second thing that

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happened seeing this other than seeing

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the tower the third thing is I had been

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talking with

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two or three people around the United

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States about objects on the moon and we

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were sending back and forth drawings and

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and photos that they were interesting

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through this I met a guy in Chicago who

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was mailing me back and forth over the

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courses way before we had computers to

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email stuff

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he showed me a lunar orbiter photo the

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lunar orbiter five looking straight down

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and nestled in the crater of Copernicus

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was a were five cylinders that looked

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like they had to be what three or four

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hundred feet tall and it was obviously

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they were they were cylinders no no

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doubt about it and they were they just

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stuck up like that and I looked at I

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said somebody put that there that's real

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I can remember the hairs standing up on

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the back of my neck because this is real

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I found it that this is something so

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that started me on looking at more stuff

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basically those three things are what

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led me into more and more interest in

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pictures of the moon the moon is a place

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for the guards to be sure that we don't

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escape we don't get away while we're on

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earth maturing our soldiers I was here

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working in the Rose Garden and my

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eight-year-old daughter comes through

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that back gate and says what is that mom

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a UFO and she's pointing this way and I

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look up and there's a you up

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right over the mountain you can see the

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top of sunrise mountain behind and as I

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looked up there's another one which she

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hadn't seen because she was running in

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with her friend there was another one

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coming in behind it and traveling it

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it would have been as big from here

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between those two countries

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our guys were had to be flying SS there

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was no purpose of them flying over a

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populated area as many as they have up

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that they area 51

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of course I guys are going to try you

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know try them out fly them

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I know Lazar was developing a name for

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the fuel that they use and did I believe

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it's called something 15 but you know

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that's not my area that's in John's area

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but like I said it's really really been

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interesting married to this man oh by

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the way when I'm in here my computer is

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all bring my a MacBook it'll just

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collapse sometimes or just go completely

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black or that full battery let's go

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completely black sorry senior government

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operatives living across the street

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taking all of these dumb you know photos

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and they're looking through the walls

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with this secret government telescope

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that you can see through wall looking

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out over there going through all of his

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computer files and he had to get a new

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computer box because they just destroyed

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the last one that's all their former

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computer and they're sending

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transmissions over to him and they're

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wiping everything off and they're

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running the internet so swell because

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they're using everything using

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everything in this house Howard care

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stuff and they're just transferring

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everything off and they're copying

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everything that's on his computer

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monitors I live somewhere across the

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street and one of the houses grandpa

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yeah you know the guys sure across the

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street taking a little stuff off and

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because I want to know something I

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definitely want to know something

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they're looking for they're looking for

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something I thought it was 88 coz 87

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they start they just started

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yeah but 88 was when they really started

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going through everything good 2012 - 19

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24 years old four years yeah the first

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time we found out about it is the

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beating the telephone guy that used to

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work on Alice's Jack's phone because

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when they're teenagers always changing

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lines and place different phones and

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stuff kinda might one day he told me

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that did you know there's a tap on your

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phone and I said no he said you want me

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to check it out and I said now they're

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harmless well I'd like to check it out I

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said hey help yourself so he came back

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in a half an hour and he said I went

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down Monroe I went down Hollywood

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Hollywood to Bonanza and I went it as

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far as Nellis and it's farther than that

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the tap so he says I'm going to check at

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the office so the next morning he came

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he says John I can't work on your phones

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anymore I said why not he says because

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your phone is tapped the mainframe and

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there's no paperwork and I went to my

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supervisor about it and she said if you

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well they wouldn't want to rob this

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place I'll tell you that my

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pistol-packing grandma it was at the

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opening of the fashion show mall and

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this kid ran I was just putting three

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children and then my two granddaughters

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are my two daughters and in the back of

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the car and their friend and this kid

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ran up and said give me your money and I

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said okay took my purse out he's holding

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it got twenty two on me and I pulled my

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45 on him and he turned in ran reach

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back and grazed my leg fired a shot and

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son at that time I didn't keep a round

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in the chamber but I do now a 22 come on

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you just picked the wrong person it

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doesn't just happen it's written the

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am I going to leave a message for my

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family

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to open on my demise about what I've

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discovered I think it's pretty well out

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there what I've discovered I hadn't

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thought about it maybe I'll give it some

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thought and leave some kind of message

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like that the message is pretty scary

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it's hard to tell people that your own

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lock stock and barrel by the ETS you

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don't do anything that they don't know

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about have interrupted and personally

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guided we're done everything that they

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have told us to do now as we walk

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through the path of life sometimes

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things aren't going too good that means

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we're on the wrong path everything has

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been predetermined all been written

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there should be no variation get off the

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path you're gently guided back onto the